I wonder how AF are managing to get a pure titanium salute product into the market when the HSE has vetoed Jorge Thunder Rockets and the BERR has vetoed Jorge Dum Bum 25 shot and 49 shot for having large amounts of flash and banned pure report fireworks?Their something like that coming in mid september from galactic firework
The anti-pyro brigade has been told straight time and time and time again and again and again etc, what the govt's position is on fireworks and the problems of a retail sale ban and difficulties in enforcing it, things like this huge size / powder weight firework will NEVER come to the UK as has been said - although many of us pyrofans would want this firework, commonsense HAS to prevail, also the manufacturers have got round the restrictions on flash reports only by adding pretty visual effects to lessen the impact of these products that they are releasing and as long as this compromise is implemented by the manufacturers / importers and distributors, then unlike you, I see no problems with it at all.No chance of UK release as others have said but this is more to do with "they were given a chicken leg and now want the whole chicken". I of course refer to the anti pyro brigade. They shouted loud enough and regulations came into place (bangers, mini rockets, db limits).
The anti pyro brigade clapped their hands with these new (old) regulations but that win for them has just made things move as closer to a total ban on fireworks. Now they want more.
Regardless of the powder limits or noise, the anti pyro crew were thrown a stick to grip on to. This has tied the governments hands and kept relatively strict regulations in place with no room for compromise in our favour.
Whereas overseas, complainers were never given that chicken leg to start with
Fireworks have become more and more expensive (which is a price the uk firework industry has HAD TO PAY to keep consumer retail fireworks on the shelves and in the public's hands) so taking them out of the idiots' affordability stakes and ensuring only TRUE enthusiasts and firework lovers can enjoy them (which can only be good) , failing that if the industry didn't get its house in order, a ban would only take it out of the public's hands and restrict to displays only.What about kids in france lighting legal (over there) bangers with the age rating as 11+ ? There's idiots in all countries so why do the french have the lowest legal age limit on fireworks that are designed to be lit and thrown, if it's "idiots" over here the same fireworks are banned because of?
The french pretty much say "hey, the law will always remain as it is. So deal with it". Whereas here its more like (early 2000's) "Oh, is that a bit loud for you? ok we will make them turn the volume down".
You can't argue that idiots with fireworks here ("chav's", small kids or footie hooligans) are after pocket money fireworks. They are not pyro enthusiasts. They probably do not even know the different brands. Yet their actions banned air bombs, mini rockets and bangers. Now the pocket money firework days are over, what would be so damaging about having a cake like this on the market for lets say £25 (or more)?
The pocket money crew wouldn't be able to afford it. Die hard pyro fans would. The only logical problem would be the noise.
Why has there been a huge decline of idiots lighting fireworks these days? It's simple... because for their money, throwing a "fantastic fountain" from a £5 ASDA selection box in the street just would be a waste of cash and not get any sort of reaction that lobbing a banger would have had.
I remember the kids when I was really young, throwing bangers and rockets at busses and cars, But this is what all the banning stemmed from. I agree with this post. We have a situation where were we are missing out on certain fireworks for the enthusiasts because of the idiots who just want to be antisocial with them.Well of course mate. It's all due to manufacturing and import fees? The price hike makes fireworks less of a tempting thing for the idiots because let's face it, 99% of people who misuse fireworks are either kids or brainless idiots who think 20p is a good investment for something that can be used to place fear into someone.
Yet it's these idiots alone made all of the regulations enforced. It's never been about the type of firework, but how they have been used. I.e black cat bangers at what? £2 for a pack of 20 will always attract idiots. Yet black cat bangers at £20 for a pack of 20 just wouldn't be worth it to these idiots. You can buy those paint balling smoke grenades legally for around £5, but we rarely see idiots with them (aside from at the occasional football matches). I'm sure if they were 20p each, kids in a lot of neighbourhoods would be getting hold of them.
In other words the government (who do not understand a thing about fireworks), should have just put down a forced minimum pricing strategy to deter idiots instead of just banning certain fireworks outright (which has provided the anti pyro brigade with a mini win, meaning although we probably won't see a total ban on consumer pyro, we also have no chance of getting the laws relaxed to allow for pyro like this big dumbum cake).
The other main factor in noise level reduction imo was newsagents that sold pyro. It was always too easy for kids who knew someone who looked about 18, to ask them to go into the newsagents to buy them 10 benson and hedges and a few packs of bangers.
The government and industry as a whole through regulation, inflation, etc have put fireworks at the best point it has ever been at. Where families can enjoy their cheapo, very low noise fountain selection boxes from the supermarket and us pyro heads can buy quite decent stuff from the all year round suppliers. But.... on the path to get here, we have lost out on any chance to enjoy a lot of the decent "Klasek" and "Jorge" pyro, all because of newsagents, pocket money pyro and idiots years ago